Exposing peoples real identity on the internet

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Me too!

Silly idea Blizzard.  I’m going to continue not using the forums. :-)

Those outraged should consider the risk they take using websites such as Facebook, on which they expose real information about themselves by choice.

Official game forums are always a pointless place to post unless your really, really desperate IMHO. Perhaps if you need technical help or something they are useful, otherwise in-game strategy information and similar are much better hosted on a third-party website where there is no misplaced expectation that game makers will contribute to the conversation.

People seem to mistakenly think they are there for two-way communication between the game makers and their customers.  They are actually just a tool for giving the impression that the game makers/managers are in some way responsive to their customers.

Perhaps a bit harsh I know, but its my experience over the last twenty years of using them.

Gobble gobble.

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15 Responses to Exposing peoples real identity on the internet

  1. Steve says:

    Sure bob, but this is about being forced to expose your real name in order to participate in the forums.

    Regardless of the outcome, regardless of how careless I am with other sites, it’s my choice. The forums, I find are useful especially for tech support, and I help others as well.

    The other aspect is that Blizzard said in their Real ID FAQ that Real ID was designed for use with only your real life trusted friends. However, they blew that on day 1 by exposing your name to any of your friend’s friends, and are now going against that on the forums.

    What’s next? Your real name on your armory? Your real name under your character’s name in game? Silly situations one might say, but then again, two days ago we’d say that being forced to use our real name on the forums was a silly idea too.

  2. Windsoar says:

    I’ve never used the in-game forums for information, particularly class based information, particularly because other parties tend to do a better job at providing and responding to it.

    However, I have been directed by customer service (in-game GM’s particularly) to seek support assistance through the forums. Bug reporting and beta testing information are also dispensed to the company in the same manner.

    While I don’t expect any response to my “omg, is this really the deal” when I post in the forums, I do expect the other aspects to be communicated to the company to make my gaming experience better–or at least, hopefully less buggy >.>

  3. Nuclayer says:

    There are many things that people are overlooking when it comes to posting on the WoW forums.

    I do a large part the recruitment for our guild and post about 20 to 30 times a day in the recruitment forums. There are a lot of outlets for recruitment, but most of them are not really good at all. 99% of all my recruits are found in those forums and from transfers. This is going to totally destroy my ability to find recruits.

    Another really valid reason to post is to be a part of your community in the realm forums. Things like – my guild killed this boss for progression or my guilds website is blah blah. Making announcement like – This guys is a ninja or who wants to buy boots are all necessary.

    The technical forums are a great place to resolve issue you are having with a new patch. The mass reduction in posting is really going to hurt your chances of finding someone with a similar problem.

    If most of you experiences are in the class forums and general forums, I could see why you feel that way, it’s nothing but trolls. There are so many other categories that have very few trolls.

    If the purpose of this entire thing was to stop trolling, you could have all the players characters exposed or have them use a main user name.

    This is about money – pure and simple.

  4. Nasiir says:

    A few generations have given the anonymous internet a thorough going over. I happen to think Blizzards idea is worth trying out. At worst, it will be an invaluable lesson on the boundaries of internet culture. At best, it could be revolutionary.

  5. BobTurkey says:

    @Steve – good point about the “Real ID was designed for use with only your real life trusted friends”. I had forgotten that bit and it was their selling point for Real ID’s in your friends list.

    I suppose I can understand the concern regarding what next type thinking. Real ID on the forums was quite a surprise to everyone.

    @Nuclayer – I must admit my ignorance regarding the use of the official forums for recruiting. Real Id would be a significant disincentive to players interesed in being recruit and whom wouldn’t normally post on the official forums.

    If this was just about saving money couldn’t they just close down the forums worst effected or otherwise reduce their expenditure. I can’t imagine that this change would be a huge reducing in expenditure for Blizzard.

    @Nasiir – Yes if it does get implemented it will be an interesting experiment :-)

    Gobble gobble.

  6. Nuclayer says:

    Bob, I don’t mean they are trying to save money by cutting down on posts within the forums…. It goes way beyond that. Blizzard has a major deal with Face Book in the works. If you have heard of FarmVille, you can see where this is going.

    Currently FarmVille has about 25 Million users because of Social Networking on Facebook alone. It is one of the largest and most popular games. This is where Blizzard wants to take Warcraft. They are tired of the Stigma that 13 year-old-virgin boys who live in their Mom’s Basement only play WoW. They want us to use our real names because they want to expose its player-base to the rest of the Word. If the real BoB Turkey (Name) plays wow and he is a professional (whatever), then his real life friends, who don’t, might give it a try. This is a Mass Marketing Campaign at the expense of our identities.

    It’s un-ethical at the very least.

  7. Maximumbob says:

    One hitch I see is simple. A lot of people play this came to escape from the stresses for real life. We may not want the two to coincide.

    We live in interesting times :-)

  8. Lyaera says:

    I think the idea thus far has been interesting, however I think Blizzard should allow players to hide beneath an alias if they choose to. I myself have been using this not only with real life friends, but also guildies, as many of us have characters on alternative servers, or simply don’t want to have to add six alts of the same friend. I do believe, of course, that it is a money scheme, but potentially in a different way than simply saving money. This game is an addiction, we all know it; snaring players into it over and over again. However, I, and many others I’m sure, play it primarily as a social place to enjoy myself with friends. Well, what about those real life friends who you meet who just so happen to play on other servers? Who happen to play horde? What about if you server switch; your old friends? Maybe an old guild or two? This RealID system prevents you from losing touch with old friends, if you choose to use it this way, as well as connect you further with real life friends who you otherwise wouldn’t be able to talk to online cross-realm or cross-faction, and in the future, cross-game.

    However, someone did mention, that they blew their acclaimed security of this, being that RealID names would only be shared with close friends, as of course, I can personally say that is not the case, as well as how you simply have to right click on a friend to view their friends. How are you to trust your friends so much that you don’t think they’ll have a single hacker on there? Or, possibly a friend could get hacked flat out— and now they have access to a plethora of real life names, every account stringing them to more and more names. BobTurkey, in your OP you mentioned how Facebook is another example of a blatant revealing of information, however, there are privacy features built in to limit who can see what in your profiles. With RealID at present, as soon as you make a friend, you’re out in the open with no available barriers to hide behind.

  9. antlergirl says:

    I’m happy they didn’t push this any further. I wasn’t much of a poster on the forums anyway, but I do like to have a bit of privacy when it comes to public forums.

  10. Mentor says:

    Although Real ID is new with WOW, identity profiling has been going on for years on the internet it’s just not many people know much about it.
    There are tools that can rip personal information from Forums because of the way they are designed and these have been available for a while. This is due to the internet beast called ‘SEO’.
    Real ID is just another front end method being used by another massive online business.

    One plus to Real ID though is all those past in game ninjas who robbed guild banks then changed their character names can be exposed once again!

  11. BobTurkey says:

    SEO = search engine optimisation? Or are you refering to something else?

  12. Mentor says:

    Yep search engine optimisation its turning the need for personal information into an internet war.

    I’m actually quite annoyed at Blizz putting our real names out there.

    Feel sorry though if there’s a real WOW player called Hugh Jarse…! He He!

  13. Gears Manufacturers says:

    Thanks for sharing with us about exposing real or fake identity. I only say that its harmful for girls to exposing their real identity or real pictures on internet.

  14. Verry says:

    Blizzard requires driver’s license faxes to match user name during an bad case of being hacked. Those of us who used credit cards did use a real name upon creation. Something they should be grateful about. But, using a real name in a game with competition, vendettas, and a load of unstable people has and will continue to be a horrible idea on any forum. Kathy Sierra, and her helpful Java blog, is a prime example.
    As a female gamer, I can’t count the unstable jerks who have threatened, harassed, or otherwise made other friends leave the game. Blizzard has never cared, internally despite their claims otherwise. This idea was a perfect example that their ideology is towards a “transparent” society, same as Facebook. The only winners in a transparent society is marketing power.

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