Gear lists, longevity vs throughput and generalisations


Ok I have been producing a lot of important looking numbers over the last couple of weeks.  From these I have produced a couple of gear lists, including throughput, but with a longevity focus.  Contrast this with The Munch Lands more throughput focused gear list.  These are discipline priest gear lists but the same applies to holy lists.  So, what do you see?

I see the same items in slightly different positions in the ranking.  So what does this mean?

You can pretty much ignore gear lists and just rely on item levels. All this has proven is what we already knew.  That is, that as a generalisation, a higher iLvl on the item means better (well duh).  Items of the same iLvl are pretty much sidegrades.  As long as you get gear which is “healing gear” you can’t really go wrong with the higher the iLvl of the item the better it is.

Likewise compare my disc gear list at top with my holy gear list.  Same situation.  Same gear slightly different order.  Sure holy priests like spirit a bit more than Discipline ones, but if you stick to the, “Higher iLvl of the item means better.  Items of the same iLvl are pretty much sidegrades” mantra you can’t really go wrong.

What do you think?


4 Responses to Gear lists, longevity vs throughput and generalisations

  1. Khaeli says:

    Although I agree with you in theory, in practice one does need to decide whether or not to “go in” on something that drops. “Is it worth it” is still something to consider. As such, it is good to know what’s BIS (or almost-BIS) so that you can really weigh whether or not you want to spend DKP or lootcouncilmojo on the Shoulders of Meh (as they are an upgrade from Naxx gear) or if you want to wait for T8.5 ones so you get the Set Bonus of Woohoo.

    Again, thank you so much for all your math and theorycrafting. These posts have all been incredibly helpful.

  2. BobTurkey says:

    Is it worth it?

    Is it higher iLvl? If yes then yes its worth it.

    Is it same iLvL but with puddles of some attribute you want? If yes then yes its worth it.

    Otherwise probably no. It might be a small upgrade, but you can survive without it.

    Personally i’ll be sticking to gear lists, but using my gear list or anyone elses is pretty optional to your success.

    Gobble gobble.

  3. zarethustra says:

    The relative importance of throughput:regen:survivability does make a difference when you’re looking at items of the same iLevel, which would be the case when you’ve got Ulduar (or whatever the current top level instance is) on farm, or, in my case, when you’ve just hit 80 and are trying to work out which iLevel 200 items to spend your limited time pursuing. My current problem is having a bunch of different pre-raid potential items, but I’d like to spend my time chasing the ones that will benefit me most.

    Picking up side-grades is always going to represent some loss of investment, be it DKP, shards, cash, crafting resources or time.

    And a special thank-you for letting me bother you in-game 🙂

  4. BobTurkey says:

    Hi Zarethustra, glad you made it!

    Your are right to some extent. Having a way to determine what is best for your gear-wise is helpful. You just need to see all the gear lists i’ve posted over the last 6 months.

    However, provided you follow some basic gearing rules like DPS need to reach hit caps, Disc priests like spell power and intellect, etc, it doesn’t really matter if you have the best-in-slot item or the 5th bestin-slot item. The improvement to your ability to fill your role is pretty minor.

    Stuff like experience, skill and focus do far more for your contribution to a team effort than minor gear upgrades.

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